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Democrat Obama, Politician???

January 30, 2008

Barack Hussein Obama's father was a Muslim and many people think he is the Democratic Party candidate of choice for Arab-Americans.

However, Ali Abunimah, the Electronic Intifada (rebellion) has a different view. Take a read of his website; you might be surprised:

http://www.electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml

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30 Comment(s)

Another poem. A politician, is a politician, is a politician, is a politician . IS A POLITICIAN.

--by Gertrude fan on 1/30/08   Lives: Michigan  

Oh My God , Obama's father was a Muslim ! Such blatant racism . So what, that he is a Muslim or was one, or changed to another religion. You guys, and the media are such racists, and you are ignorant to know that you are attacking every Muslin with your disrespect to a religion. The media has done a great job to the American public to convince us that we hate Muslims. You guys do not think for yourself, I only hear the same repetitions you idiots hear on Fox news or any other news outlet. Imagine the outrage if we said that we can not vote for a politician because he was a Jew at one time but converted to Christianity. This happened in the 50's and the media was admonished for this.Oh, by the way I am not a Muslim, but I am a Christian that does not let the media tell me whom to hate.

--by So what on 1/31/08   Lives: Dearborn  

So What, You are the RACIST. Did you read the post by a Muslim ? No, your liberal biases would not allow you to read opinions of Muslins that differ from your liberal Christian racism.

--by Moe on 1/31/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Russ, Why do you allow Christian Muslim haters on your site ? "So What" starts accusing everyone of being a racist just because you state the truth that Mr.Obama has a Muslim father.

--by Proud Muslim on 1/31/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Interesting comments, Seem SO WHAT, does not complain when the media refers to Mitt Romney's father as Mormon, but find racism in the fact that Obamas dad was a Muslim. Great example as to how the liberal fascists work.

--by Seeing on 1/31/08   Lives: Michigan  

My Dearest Proud Muslim

Much like "fundamentalist Muslim" and "fanatical Muslim" and Islamo-fascist Muslim, you simply do not understand how America works and why you’re here n the first place.

Here in America, we have a thing called FREE SPEECH! Even people who we don’t agree with get a say. Maybe you forgot to read that part of our Constitution, its in the First Amendment. It goes like this:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.�

I know Russ Gibb does not put himself above the 1st amendment, nor can you!

Maybe you have forgotten why you came to this country. We love your food, find your customs interesting and most Americans are repulsed by your treatment of women, but under the US constitution, you can do whatever you want within the framework of the law. You get the right to disagree openly and practice your lifestyle. Our Constitution provides you those rights. Maybe you forgot that from your citizenship classes.

Please bring your customs, bring your lifestyle, bring your sick, poor and downtrodden here, but please LEAVE YOUR TOTALITARIAN VIEWS that silence people who wish to speak their mind back where you came from. They are not wanted or welcome here. You call it “hating� most of us call it free speech. Kind of how you all get the right to protest a war against Hezbollah and Israel in front of Dearborn’s City Hall. Most non Arabs thought you were off your rocker protesting a war we were not even I, nor started, but you got the right to be heard. Try to remember, those of us who have lived here all our lives get that right too.

--by Read the Constitution Proud Muslim on 1/31/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Pity the poor Democrats. I watched the debate last night with Hillary and Barack playing nicy ,nicy with one another. The White billionaire liberals, who control the Democratic party are thinking a Clinton/Obama kiss-up ticket will get them into the White House. What a joke. It's political correctness gone amuck. Gender and Race on the same ticket. Dream on Democrats, Americans will see through the scam.

--by Independent on 2/1/08   Lives: Detroit area  

The liberal mainstream media is all a twitter. "the Democrats are a family" Wanna bet ?

--by Not Conned on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

How bad do the Democrats want it?
I think we just saw, in last night’s debate, that the Democrats are starting to wake up and smell the voters.
As the economy worsens, the stock markets fluxiate, and public support for our wars around the world has ended, I see the Democratic Party has made their first "dig" at unifying the two front runners behind a common cause. Rid the white house of Republicans
Hillary Clinton + Barack Obama = a Democratic Administration next year!
Deny it all you want, but the first stone has been cast and I think they know they can lock this election up with such a maneuver.
Super Tuesday will be extremely telling folks. I think its going to be far more an issue of who is going to get the top job and who gets to ride shot gun for the Dems, not whose going to be in the white house.
The two of them are already being called the “dream team� by the media, and we all know who drives public opinion in this country.

--by You just saw it! on 2/1/08   Lives: USA  

You just saw it. Your a racist. The ticket should read Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton.

--by Democrat on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  

You just saw it. You’re a SEXIST! The ticket should read The fat White Chick and the skinny black guy.

LOL!!

Russ, that’s why I live to read your site! The stupidity just oozes from the computer monitor!

--by Comedy show on 2/1/08   Lives: Detroit area  

Who the hell does "You just saw it" think he is ?
I don't need his patronizing "folks" and "deny it all you want", know it all attitude, telling me how and what to think.
This guy is so full of IT, and himself.
Talk about a living argument for birth control.
This guy is candidate number one.
Go peddle your condescending garbage elsewhere. Your soiling Gibb's website.

--by T. J . Hudson on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  

T J Hudson . I agree with you about YOU JUST SAW IT. He really thinks he is the expert, My guess is that he is a full of hot air school teacher. Who is used to having a bunch of kids that he can bamboozle with his pseudo knowledge mouth offs. Sad part is that he thinks of himself as intelligent. Easy to fool kids. But you can't fool me.

--by Dearborn Parent on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

When did Muslim become a race?

--by Charles Martel on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Wow Russ:

Talk about a RAW nerve! It’s kind of amusing how people react when someone upsets their delicate little political views with opinions that don’t coincide with their own.
This seems to be a pretty typical response by most Republicans, to insult, attack, and attack when they perceive they are losing control. I guess that’s why our country is in the shape it’s in right now and why the Republicans have lost control of Congress and about to lose the White House.
T.J, you need to get your meds adjusted, your Paranoia is coming back. I think the only poster child out here is you and it’s for responsible use of Prozac. Take it easy buddy, it’s only an opinion until you elevate it to reality, which, apparently you have just done.

--by Get some help TJ on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Mr, Gibb, I find it amusing the way that some posters on your site slam one another. "The get some help" guy is the one that sounds very paranoid. Everybodys wrong but him.

--by Another parent on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

True, Obama is a flip flopper.He and Kwame make a great pair. Look ya right in the eye and lie.

--by Out of Detroit on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  

Ya, How come, the media doesn't hype the fact the on one debate Obama says he is against legalizing pot and 2 debates later he is for legalizing pot???

--by ZZ rules on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  

A few years back no one ever heard of Barack Obama. Heres a question I wish the media would ask. Who are the power brokers,money men and media gurus behind Obams rise ? Please names ?

--by asking on 2/1/08   Lives: Detroit area  

Asking, I don't know the names of Obama's backers.
But I would bet my last dime that they are billionaire Democrats. Who could care less about the color of a canidates skin, Be it red, black,yellow or white. What they care about is control. They are the ultimate white puppet masters.
The Democratic Party is now owned lock,stock and barrel by the millionaires and billionaires. The Republican Party was bought out years ago.

--by Concerned on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  


Obama STATES in his book he's a Christian and "took a walk down the aisle" but one does not convert by walking. A convert is baptized in water. He's still not a Christian.

Btw, Obama's two books are now being touted as nothing but lies. He is in full support of his COUSIN, Raill Odinga in Kenya who has signed agreements with Al Qaida and has recently burned a church down filled with children and parents. Not ONCE has Obama spoken about it (although in daily phone conversations with his cousin). Obama is NOT a leader. He's a follower.

PS: Russ there have been a number of posts that would have been interesting from others (and myself). In conversation we are finding you don't bother with them. You're as bad as the Free Press (which is NOT a free press any longer!) Sorry the world doesn't revolve around your views only.

--by Schaef on 2/1/08   Lives: Dearborn  

The liberal media is driving the Obama movement. Move On the super rich Soros's owned and operated organization just came out and endorsed Obama. Surprise, surprise. Very little is really know about the background of Obama. They are attempting to hide his shady past.

--by Media Failure on 2/1/08   Lives: Detroit area  

Wow, you people are so mean to each other!

I only think religion matters in so far as how it effects the candidates ability to lead as president and how it effects their policy making decisions. Even if Barack were a muslim these would be the same two main questions that I think are relevant. Somehow people insinuate with the word "muslim" as if it meant that somehow he's some planted Al Queda Candidate, just like how people ridicule Romney as a polygamist even though he's the only Republican leader with one wife. It's pretty ridiculous.

--by Brian on 2/1/08   Lives: USA  

I don’t agree with columnist Richard Cohen of the NEW YORK TIMES very often, but in this case he’s hard to argue with.

" Barack Obama is a member of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama’s spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said “truly epitomized greatness.� That man is Louis Farrakhan.

Maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan"epitomized greatness." For most Americans, though, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler — "They helped him get the Third Reich on the road." His history is a rancid stew of lies.

Cohen goes on to build the case against Farrakhan, though he leaves out the Nation of Islam’s leader’s exploits in foreign policy. Farrakhan met with Libyan strongman Muammar Ghaddafi during the US-Libya warm war of the 1980s. Farrakhan has also repeatedly denounced the US as evil and issued a divine death sentence on the country. Farrakhan has also lauded Barack Obama’s candidacy for president. Farrakhan is one of the country’s most bizarre, most repulsive, most openly racist, most offensive public figures. Yet Obama’s minister lauded Farrakhan with an award for epitomizing "greatness." What’s doubly strange about the Farrakhan award is that Obama’s is a Christian church. Why would a Christian church magazine laud a racist radical Muslim? It’s impossible to get past concluding that it did so because, while it disagrees with Farrakhan on religious matters, it agrees with him on political and racial matters and those agreements trump the religious disagreement.

Cohen argues that Obama hasn’t shown any evidence that he agrees with Wright’s views on Farrakhan and that’s true, but Obama has credited Rev. Wright as his mentor. Obama has also said that he and Wright disagree on some matters. Obama owes it to the country to clearly spell out whether and why he disagrees with Rev. Wright on Farrakhan. Doing so or not doing so will tell us much about the man Barack Obama and whether he is really as post-racial a figure as he claims to be. If Obama really is the "new Bill Clinton," this is his Sister Souljah moment.

--by Bryan on 2/1/08   Lives: USA  

The recent BBC revelation of Obama's ties to his cousin Raila Odinga in Kenya are very disconcerting. Why ? Because Odinga is behind the terrible violence in his country. It was he who instigated bloody riots and killing after he lost the election. Obama's bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenyan government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila's "stooge." And while there are few angels in Kenya, Odinga is the source of great unrest and turmoil; and the Memo of understanding, MOU Odinga signed with the Muslim Council to institute sharia is a foreshadowing of a dark fate for Kenya. Another interesting person in the Barack Obama story, is his brother. Bet you never even knew he had a brother. Wait until that story breaks.

--by Beyond our liberal media. on 2/1/08   Lives: Detroit area  

Russ, Do you know the meaning of the word Apostasy ? Seeing that you are one of the few guys in the media that asks politically incorrect questions maybe you should find out if the word Apostasy has anything to do with Barack Obama.

--by Just a Question. on 2/1/08   Lives: Michigan  

Apostasy is leaving ones religion. This is against Islam and punishable by death. Obama states he was/is an athiest but he's not stupid. He has never (and will never) state that he has NEVER been a Muslim. He can't. It is a death sentence. According to Islam, he is a Muslim by birth as his father was a Muslim. Same thing as being born to a Jewish woman. You are a Jew, period. But, you are not a Christian until you are technically baptized.

--by Schaef on 2/2/08   Lives: Dearborn  

Brian,

When your cousin is Raill Odinga and he's SIGNED a contract with Al Qaida to mandate Sharia law in Kenya just to get votes (for the presidency) and you prefer NOT to distance yourself while running for President of the United States, does that not say something to you? Odinga has just slaughtered and raped a village - not a word from Obama about any of it but they're on the phone speaking to each other every week. I don't even know any Muslims here (personally) who would support Al Qaida and have their liberties taken away from them after experiencing freedom. Quit kissing up .

As for Romney, he may have just one wife, but he believes Smith was OUR living God. Mormonism is a cult, nothing more. But, I'll give him this, in the name of his religion, no heads get lopped off.

--by Schaef on 2/2/08   Lives: Dearborn  


Kenyan opposition leader Odinga says Obama is his cousin

Mr Obama is descended from the same Luo tribe as Mr Odinga

Odinga on Obama
Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga has said he is a cousin of US presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

Mr Odinga told the BBC's The World Today that Senator Obama's father was his maternal uncle.

Mr Obama's father - a Kenyan also called Barack - met and married his American mother when they were students at the university of Hawaii.

--by BBC world News on 2/2/08   Lives: Another country  

Hey, BBC:

I don't like Barack Obama, but we can't take the word of this bloody leader in Kenya at face value. Has there been a confirming investigation, especially of the charge that the two men talk weekly?

The Muslim connection to Obama becomes more than worrying if this connection is as stated above. Obama has said publicly that he thinks he can negotiate with Iran and other Muslims. If he truly thinks that, he is delusional.

--by Really? on 2/4/08   Lives: Dearborn  

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