Russ Gibb at Random

Disgusted writes

January 11, 2007

Dear Russ,
I am a teacher in the district and I am not surprised by the estimated number of out-of-district students attending our schools. I recently sent a letter to a parent via U.S. Postal Service. The letter came back stamped forwarding service has expired. What this means is that the parent no longer resides at the school registered address. This is not the first time I have received this notice. I have suspected that this family resides out of district for a while. When reported to Student Services, they do nothing as usual. The district would rather have the money from the state than rid our district of many of the problem ridden out-of-district students. I really think that Detroit has reason to come after Dearborn for knowingly enrolling kids from their district.

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23 Comment(s)

The Dearborn School Board is getting ready to dump Fordsons over flow of students into Edsel Ford. I'm told over 200 students at Fordson are not Dearborn residents. Why the cover up ?

--by Edsel parent on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Look, I'm told that hardly anyone in Dearborn has any respect for superintedent John Artis. Well maybe Aimee Blackburn and Jim Schoolmaster like him ? Get rid of the guy, send him packing back to Grosse Pointe.

--by Young parent on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Edsel parent. Your wrong about the number of non resident students at Fordson. Try over 300 non Dearborn kids.

--by Fordson teacher on 1/11/07   Lives: Detroit area  

So what did you all do about it? You re elected the board president and told him you support him.

I just don’t get you people! You sit on your hands! The supposed teacher in the district named "disgusted" states that he or she has returned letters to the district and reported it. I say BULL! I say PROVE IT! Let’s get a look at these letters. If you are too afraid of that loser of a Superintendent who was put in place and re affirmed by the SAME PEOPLE WHO YOU ALL ELECTED I will be GLAD TO DO IT! You just come out here and say I can have a copy of the returned letters. I don’t need the contents, just the addressed envelope or post card face that has the forwarding service information.

Just say you will do it and I will be glad to post an Email for you to send them to.

--by Step up or SHUT UP on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

What the heck is "Step up or shut up" trying to say ??? He needs a course in clear writing .

--by citizen on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Why would John Artis care about out of district students? He lives in Grosse Pointe where they had a mandatory reenrollment verification FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT! They were able to clean house and rid themselves of many of their problem students. Maybe we should all move there.

--by Taxpayer on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  


--by Disgusted on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Step Up or Shut Up,
I have the letter. It will be posted on Ebay tonight. It'll go to the highest bidder.

--by Disgusted on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

It looks like Mark Zigterman has really cleaned up and improved the Student Services Department since being moved from Bryant. Another good Central Office decision!

--by Taxpayer on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Ask anyone why the Dearborn schools are failing ? The answer: Dr John Artis.. It starts right at the top. And who was the main person pushing to renew his contract. Amiee Blackburn.

--by Stepping up. on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Russ, I agree that Aimee Blackburn was the main supporter of Dr Artis, but the rest of the board voted yes also. Except Sharon Dulmage, she voted no.

--by Edsel Ford Parent on 1/11/07   Lives: Dearborn  

What I am saying is produce the letters that show that they were returned, that’s what I am saying! I am saying that if you are too chicken to step up and put this in the open forum of the school board, move aside and let someone else do it. I have the ability to investigate the issue. I can do what the district is supposed to. Go to the house that they say they live in, find where they live now, than take the issue to the board. Let’s get in their face and show everyone how our board is cheating our kids. Just produce the evidence.

I am also saying that if we can’t see them, Disgusted is a fraud! There are lots of people out here that say they have proof, but never produce it, then never respond to people asking for proof. Well, here is your chance Disgusted, let’s get a look at them and make up our own minds.

--by Step up or Shut up on 1/12/07   Lives: Dearborn  

This has been happening in Dearborn Public Schools for a long time now. I peer-aided for a teacher once, and he wanted me to look up where a student lived. The address on the card looked kinda shady and we looked it up on Google Maps. The student's family had claimed they lived in the Ford Rouge Plant...

Artis should really watch the Blues Brothers sometime. Next thing you know, students will be living in Wrigley Field.

--by Not Surprised on 1/12/07   Lives: Detroit area  


1060 West Addison?..........Thats Wrigley Field

--by Joliet Jake Blues on 1/12/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Too many kids cause too many problems. Actually only a few in every class cause problems.

Why can't we take one school and make it only for bad kids so that the other schools can teach and kids can learn without trouble makers causing grief for all?

--by Need 1 jail or 1 school for bad kids on 1/12/07   Lives: Dearborn  

We used to have that (bad kids) school in was called Miller.

--by Didn't Go To Miller on 1/12/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Was Miller School only for bad kids?

Why did it go away? When?

If we used to have a BAD KIDS SCHOOL before, why can't Dearborn have one now?

--by Concerned Parent on 1/13/07   Lives: Dearborn  

A notice that forwarding service has expired does not mean someone has moved out of the district. It only means they have moved. People who rent their living quarters are probably more likely to move within a school district, but I did it myself and I own my home.

There is no way to know the result of reporting residency issues to student services, unless school personnel receive a response to their reports. To prevent misunderstandings and make sure that reports of residency suspicions do not get missed, I believe school personnel should email their suspicion to student services. A standard subject that includes the student name and number plus verbage to indicate it is a residency investigation request would allow Student Services to manage these requests in their email box. After it is investigated, the teacher should receive an emailed reply stating the result of the investigation. If the teacher does not receive a reply within a specified time they could resend it. If they still received no reply they would have documentation of the date the requests were sent, which when provided to the central office would allow them to identify problems in the process.

--by Geer Park Area on 1/14/07   Lives: Dearborn  

I agree that there are many non residents sending their children to Dearborn Public Schools. A lot of the ones doing it are former Dearbornites that have moved out, but work at Fords and they use their parents addresses. They say it's convenient for grandma or grandpa because they drop the kids off on the way to work and then pick them up on the way home.

--by Snow School Parent on 1/14/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Several years ago I went to a DPS public hearing (Dr Hughes was the supt. then) and asked about the district's policy regarding non-resident students. At that time Dr. Hughes said that their hands were tied; they were not allowed to ask for multiple verifications of residency. When I explained how a family member got around this (all she did was get a relative to agree to change the name on the DTE bill and produced that bill along with a change of address on the driver's license; then the relative put his own name back on the DTE bill a few weeks later) Dr. Hughes acknowledged non-residency was an issue, but tracking down students could only be done if someone reported names and addresses of suspected non-residents. This is not a problem created during Dr. Artis' administration. NOT SURPRISED has it right when stating this has been going on a long time. What I would like to see is the district tackle the issue of non-residency. When Grosse Pointe schools did so, I believe a couple of hundred students did not re-register.

--by Vida Bonacci on 1/14/07   Lives: Detroit area  

Concerned Parent:

Yes, it was strictly for \"bad kids\". I am not exactly sure when it went away. I am sure it was sometime when the \"middle school\" concept took over.

I am sure you could investigate and find out exactly how it worked.

--by Didn't Go To Miller on 1/14/07   Lives: Dearborn  

What school is little used now?
How big would it have to be to hold the "bad kids"?

Who knows why they took away the "bad kids" school?

--by Concerned Parent on 1/16/07   Lives: Dearborn  

Please define what you mean by "bad". Who wants to risk having their kids labeled "bad" and sent to a school that no one can learn in because all of the kids know they have been labeled "bad"?

Oh yeah, Henry Ford went to Miller School. His teachers could have labeled him "bad" for doodling pictures of machines on his slate.....or for daydreaming about assembly lines......

--by Geer Park on 1/16/07   Lives: Dearborn  

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